zbuckster
Junkyard Dog
Racecar spelled backwards is racecaR
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Post by zbuckster on Oct 31, 2011 10:18:35 GMT -6
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Post by geezerman on Oct 31, 2011 16:44:18 GMT -6
Buck, I'm going to repeat the response to this that I posted on your forum. There are points here that model weathering enthusiasts should ponder. Rust bucket Brigade should be a good platform for this.
Sounds like a great source for real rust dust. All of the gimmicks and products for the rusting of plastic models are great, but I prefer the ones one can get cheaply or for nothing. But both high dollar methods and homade all are subject to the modelers artistic skill. Just as assembling, bashing and modifying are. The rusting you see on my model is all paint and some strained dirt. Spray bomb red oxide, and 3 different colors of cheap 98ยข Walmart craft paint. Granted, I have some artistic skills to achieve the results I get, just as others have modeling skills to get great looking models. Many modelers take great pains to research a prototype and get their model as correct as they can. Weathering and rusting should command the same amount of research. How rust has different hues, and different textures, and where it naturally forms on different vehicles.
I have seen plenty of bad weathering, from simply sanding off some surface color to airbrushing random streaks and haphazard splattering of brownish stuff. I seldom criticize. But the Mad Modeler doesn't seem to care for me for some reason, and maybe more so after this. I'm sorry, his rusted rocker panel looks simply like a brush stroke of adhesive with the rotor dust sprinkled on. No attempt at convincing reality. I suppose I had ought to wait with my comments til (if ever) I see the finished result. But this is a good chance for me to express my views on bad weathering. It is on a thread I started and I'm not harping on someone else's thread. Brake rotor dust could be an excellent tool in a modelers weathering kit, But it will not give a convincing effect without some extra effort. Just as a model needs extra effort building skills to graduate from glue bomb status. Hope I'm not making yet more enemys.
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zbuckster
Junkyard Dog
Racecar spelled backwards is racecaR
Posts: 432
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Post by zbuckster on Nov 1, 2011 11:41:00 GMT -6
Well said Clay. I thought it was interesting that we were talking about making rust with steel wool and then I saw this. I was just sharing the tech.
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Post by geezerman on Nov 3, 2011 18:51:21 GMT -6
Lil update. Have the black top coat of paint done and mask material off. Workin on the seat and getting into the fun stuff......more rusting with my brushes I'll probably tone this down some by airbrushing a light layer of rusty dust. Don't know how exactly I'll be getting that, but we'll see Incandescent light making it look a tad orange-ish, but this is still in mid process.
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zbuckster
Junkyard Dog
Racecar spelled backwards is racecaR
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Post by zbuckster on Nov 4, 2011 10:43:43 GMT -6
Looks better all the time.
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Post by tomcd62 on Nov 4, 2011 13:41:51 GMT -6
Awesome Geez, Love the shinny contrasting against the dull, the rough against the smooth. That's what my builds are missing. Adding to your comments above. In my opinion, as artistic skills are developed a particular sense of style with eventually emerge from the application of those skills. This will take time and a few ugly models. My models all sort of look the same, because that's the look I desire. They have to have this look or I don't think they are successful. I love to show off my work but in the end my models are made for me, for my own personal enjoyment. Why are so many modelers so pretentious? I will talk modeling with anyone and very often during a friendly discussion at the hobby shop, kit show, contest, etc half the time I am confronted with someone who suffers from a bad case of model know-it all-ism. Someone who just talks at you with an air that they automatically know more about modeling and are better modeler than I am without even seeing one of my models. I just politely agree with them, thinking to myself ,man, get a grip! a little humility please. I am glad that the members of Rust Bucket Brigade refrain from being know-it-all braggarts, Tom
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Post by geezerman on Nov 5, 2011 15:32:26 GMT -6
I'm making the semblance of a gas tank to lay under the rear. (Cut the cast in one out of the frame) Used a couple of trunk lids from the salvage yard.
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zbuckster
Junkyard Dog
Racecar spelled backwards is racecaR
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Post by zbuckster on Nov 6, 2011 11:25:36 GMT -6
Nice.
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Post by geezerman on Nov 7, 2011 5:25:47 GMT -6
Definitly not 40 Fordish. but when crudded up, it'll be something to add to the pile.
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zbuckster
Junkyard Dog
Racecar spelled backwards is racecaR
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Post by zbuckster on Nov 7, 2011 10:21:33 GMT -6
May not Fordish, but looks good laying underneath the truck.
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Post by bob29579 on Nov 8, 2011 10:41:53 GMT -6
Great stuff Clay. I really love those hood hinges. Nice. Greg.
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Post by geezerman on Nov 8, 2011 20:47:44 GMT -6
Now we're making some assy. progress!! Waterstained sagging headliner. Interior stuff
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zbuckster
Junkyard Dog
Racecar spelled backwards is racecaR
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Post by zbuckster on Nov 9, 2011 10:09:00 GMT -6
Maybe it just me but I think this is the best "Rust Bomb" you have built. It all looks very realistic.
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Post by geezerman on Nov 9, 2011 11:36:08 GMT -6
Thanks, Buck. I think I'm about done molesting this poor thing. The bed and stuff in it aren't attached to anything yet. I'm not sure how I want to wrap this up. Either a small display of it's own, or a permanant spot on my salvage yard backdrop, or maybe, just throw it in a box and stash it along with my other built stuff that's not on display. When I get better pics or make a final decision, I'll post it in the finished section. Thanks for looking.
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zbuckster
Junkyard Dog
Racecar spelled backwards is racecaR
Posts: 432
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Post by zbuckster on Nov 10, 2011 10:33:15 GMT -6
Don't hide it display it. Maybe another bonsia tree.
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